TLDR
Combining Fable 5 with Hermes Agent enables powerful, cost-effective AI workflows by using cheaper models for data gathering and compression, then routing only high-judgment tasks to Fable 5. The video demonstrates three use cases: a routing control system, one-shot website and agent deployment, and productivity improvement via model orchestration. Key strategies include 'compress, judge, and execute' and using Fable 5 for taste, architecture, strategy review, and codification.
Key points
- Fable 5 should not be the default chat model; it should be reserved for high-judgment tasks to control costs.
- The 'compress, judge, and execute' strategy uses cheap models for groundwork and Fable 5 for decision-making.
- A routing control system in Hermes Agent determines when to escalate tasks to Fable 5, with cost estimates and user approval.
- One-shot website and agent deployment is possible using Fable 5, Hermes Agent, and the Agent Stack on Vercel.
- Productivity improvement is achieved by having cheap models gather data from emails, chats, and notes, then Fable 5 provides strategic insights.
- The system is model-agnostic, allowing substitution of Fable 5 with future models like GPT-5.6 or Claude Fable 6.
- Fable 5 is used for taste, architecture, strategy review, and codification, not for routine tasks.
Tools mentioned
- Fable 5
- Hermes Agent
- Agentic Operating System
- Pantheon
- Agent Stack
- Vercel
- Open Router
- GPT-5.6
- DeepSeek
- Grok
- Claude Code
- Codex
Techniques
- compress, judge, and execute
- model routing
- cost-aware task escalation
- one-shot deployment
- model orchestration for productivity
Takeaways
- Use Fable 5 only for high-judgment tasks to maximize value and minimize cost.
- Implement a routing system that automatically escalates complex tasks to the best model with user approval.
- Combine cheap models for data gathering with Fable 5 for strategic insights to improve productivity.
- The approach is model-agnostic and works with future model releases.
Transcript (captions)
Imagine that if you could combine the world's number one AI agent with the most powerful model, Fable 5. I did that and it unlocked incredible capabilities. And in this video, I'm going to show you three incredible use cases that shows you how to get incredible outputs with Fable 5 using one simple system without wasting your money, meaning you get way more productivity systems than Hermes will everybody else is paying so much money for expensive agents. And if you're new, I'm Jack. I built and sold my last six startups with a gazillion customers. And now I'm building my own AI startups. And here, I share the stuff that actually works. So, if you haven't already, grab that beautiful coffee and let's dive straight in. In addition to Fable 5, we've also got GPT 5.6 salt just dropped. Now, I'm going to touch on that in this video. All the systems I'm going to show you will apply for any of the incredible models. In fact, I had both Fable 5 and GPT salt design a simple thing. This right here is what Fable 5 gave us, which is very cool. It's very crisp. And this is salt. So, again, still from a design perspective, the early view seems to be that actually Fable is a category higher in terms of design. I'm going to do more tests, but I just wanted to show you some early sneak peeks and tell you that it applies to everything. Now, one core concept that we have to understand, if you really want a superhuman Hermes agent, and if you follow this video, by the end of this video, you're going to be able to use Hermes agent like like nobody else. It's going to be incredible. Now, one core concept is we do not have the genius doing the farm. We do not have over Einstein mopping our floors. When we're using Fable 5 in our Hermes agent, we're not going to be using it as the default chat model for everything. If you're trying to not spend a million dollars, that's one of the core concepts you have to learn here. And the idea of how we're actually going to be using Fable 5 here, there's a couple of strategies. One is what we call compress, judge, and execute. I'm going to show you this across three use cases and you're going to see how cool this is. Now, the idea here, okay, is that we get cheap models or models that we can access for free, like ChatGPT 5.5, or DeepSeek, or Grok. And that will effectively gather and compress and take the back the big swaths of data. Does it feel like all the groundwork? Think of them as your like millions of employees, or thousands of employees. And effectively, we have Fable who gets the briefing, gets the extraction of the core insights and data. And from that, Fable will judge and make a judgment call. Essentially sits in the middle. So we have this like preprocessing pipeline over here. Fable makes the decision and then it goes over to Hermes to execute with a very capable model. And in some circumstances, even Fable themselves will do the job. And so we're going to be using Fable 5 for taste, architecture strategy review, and to codify. And with that in mind, let's actually go ahead and do our very first use case. And that's essentially building a routing control system inside Hermes agent. Which effectively is going to enable Hermes agent to know exactly when it needs to give a task to Fable 5, and when it should use a completely different model against those five pillars. And what's really cool here is that when we give Hermes the system, essentially it can use this sound for any complicated tasks, meaning we're only bringing the best models when we actually need to. I should also say by the way that it is gated, so if it's ever going to bring in Fable 5, it will ask you and give you an estimate on what that particular cost is. But let me show you exactly what I mean. Now the good news is I built a skill for this thing. It's got two parts. But what I'm going to do first of all is I'm going to shoot over to the Agentyc Operating System and head over to Hermes. And what I want to do actually is build within the Pantheon a custom AI persona. Going to come down here and add one in. So let's go for the alchemist in this particular instance. And essentially, we're going to give it a job, a description, and a system prompt, and select the model. So the model we're going to want down here is going to be the brand new Claude Fable 5, which means hey, you're going to use this model under these circumstances. And of course, we kind of want to select a different strategy, which is very cool on how the effort dial we want it to apply. So this is the first step. So the reason that I do this and I use it in Agentyc OS is I find it very helpful to have a kind of visual overview of what all of my Hermes agents and personas are doing inside the Pantheon. If you don't have this, you can just give them directly to Hermes and let them remember it. I just find it really helpful to have a good visualization. And we've got a system prompt that says you want an Oracle to get tagged in only for the big picture calls. Kind of basically explains Fable 5's job when it's used and just kind of basically tells it that this is how much it costs. You need to, whenever you use explain, "Hey, this is what the cost will be in tokens and also dollars." So, you get a good idea of actually worth me doing or not cuz it's so powerful, but at the same time it has a cost to it. So, we want to be sensitive of that. Going to come down and then obviously can pick the model. We've got a GPT 5 Fable 5 different tier model and you can kind of select the actual effort dial as you prefer. And there's not too much difference between high, extra high, max. I'm going to go ahead and click on high, which is fantastic. And as you can see now, we have our wonderful um Fable 5 all within our Pantheon. And if you haven't done this yet, definitely go into your Ministry of Experts and add in Fable 5 to stay there as your lead orchestrator. When you use that, it This sounds like I'm speaking Spanish. I'll put a link on screen for my last video that covers exactly what this Ministry of Experts is. And I'll put down below the link for the most comprehensive Hermes masterclass that I have ever built. Literally, I just started releasing this inside the community. I go through foundations, set up Hermes, and it's all releasing this month. Um basically multiple levels a week. We've got powering Hermes, giving Hermes Hermes a memory that never forgets. You'll learn things like connecting Hermes to everything, powerful features, operating systems, security compliance, monetization, and all the same uh and more stuff with code cards. So, I'll put a link down below for that. You can grab that as well as the full Agentic Operating System, which is easy to add in that. And then the second thing you need is this document here. Again, I'll put both down below for you so you can grab them completely free. And what you can do is control A on everything. You have to tap it twice on um basically on Notion. Just control C that and head over to Hermes. And what you can do is as you come over to Hermes Agent here, I've got GPT 5.5 logged in. I'm going to come down and literally drop this and say, "Hey, I would like to save this as a skill." Okay? Come down, hit enter, basically paste that in, and then it's ready to rock and roll. Equally, you could do that in Telegram if you wish by coming over here, literally grabbing your Hermes agent, just dropping the prompt. You can also say, "I've also added a brand new persona to the Pantheon that covers some more details on this also." Like so, and you can just send that off. And then as you can see in the actual operating system, we get this beautifully for I went I went very deep on the format with this sort of stuff that kind of explains what it does. One-shot task templates to keep it cheap. And one of the reasons I quite like the UI here as well is because you can basically a breakdown of your context window, the conversation length, all this sort of stuff, and then easily just kind of one-click change the models. You can do that in Telegram, but I just think it's very helpful to have. Of course, you can go ahead and actually post in the Notion URL if you want to. It's completely easy to do that if you want to give it the other skills, too. And so now we can actually ask and say, "Hey there, under what circumstances would you use Fable 5? When would you tag that in? And what process would you follow?" And we can validate that Hermes understand exactly And guys, this is so fundamental to know. We knew that it would work. So, now this is key. I only use Fable 5 when judgment changes the outcome. The trigger's going to be taste, architecture strategy review, or codify. When I would not use it these individual locations. Basically, start your work horse, gather context, compress into type brief, check if one of the Fable faith five Fable triggers fires it, and it will estimate the cost and ask for approval, and call Fable once the brief is done. Now, the best way to connect Fable 5 to Hermes agent is actually via your API key, which you can grab from Open Router. So, for summary, basically we're going to have GLM or similar model label the task, the types to stake the context of privacy. Basically, then we're going to have the cheapest capable lane by default. It's going to escalate to Fable only when there's a big trigger. And then Fable can review the failures and the routing that will get better over time the more that we use it. So, let's go ahead and actually do some a really cool use case with this, which is taking an idea and shipping it to the web using Fable 5 without a huge Fable 5 price tag. So, we've got Think about it like this, and this is a really interesting one because I think we should create a website, but not just create a website. We should make this more interesting and more challenging for Hermes. So, I want to create in one shot a website, and I want an agent on it. And we need some really cool technology to bring this to life from the cell, which you've done some really freaking incredible things. Because everyone uses the cell to host websites, you can now use a thing called agent stack that lets you host basically these agents on that. It's really freaking cool. And if you think about typical hosting being like a website, agent stack is kind of like, if you think about an actual AI employee inside that can use tools, which is that AI gateway. It can have like a sandbox to code things. It has workflows, different models, and you basically it just manages everything within one location. So, the way we're going to do this is we're going to have the website we're going to ship on the cell with using this fable five. And that agent basically the agent is going to think call models, run tools, and ship in the same ways to deploy. So, the first thing I'm going to do is actually go ahead and install this for cell plugin. What this will effectively do, and we're just all going to just copy and paste this into Hermes, is it will just connect us to the entire the cell ecosystem. So, there's lots going on here. We have 28 different skills, AI gateway, the cell sandbox, workflow, loads of specialized agents, you name it. It's there. What we're going to is actually copy all of this and then ship over to Hermes and paste it in. I'm going to say, "Hey, go ahead and install this skill." All right, going to come down and then paste off here. And I might say, "Just confirm once this is live." And once Hermes is doing that in the background, I want to explain exactly what the challenge is going to be. You can see how we can use fable five in a real life use case to build something difficult. So, I want to go ahead and build and ship an agent using this agent stack, which means we can do all of it in one shot. We're going to build a real website with a product. We're going to have an agent. We're going to have a brain that we're going to be able to talk to. And we're going to deploy the entire thing in the cell with no need for any other code or anything else. So, the way it's going to work is we're going to have one landing page. It's going to be one embedded agent. Both going to be on the cell. The agent is in a folder, which is instructions.md. That's the kind of brain. And one type script tool, which is like the the book trial. It's a brain root to an AI gateway. It's just going to be cheap by default, and it's going to be fable when it's really important. And we're going to install the cell plugin, which we've already done. And then we can check it out. They can land on our website and essentially build an agent. What the agent stack is and why it's important to bear in mind is essentially we have a couple of things. We have an AI gateway, which is like think of it like a phone line to a room of experts. It's one key. We'll get 100 plus models. Root to ship by default, we can ask it to Fable. We're going to sandbox where we can do various things like essentially each agent gets a throwaway Linux computer and a workflow for the computer. Loads of really cool things. And literally, guys, we're just going to take this example prompt and throw it into Hermes to see how it uses it and how it brings in Fable 5. Now, let's come over and give it this prompt just to test it and see exactly how you can use this down to build beautiful things with Fable 5. Come over here and drop this one in. And of course, whether it's Fable 5 or not, you can effectively do any of this with anything. So, Claude code, you get the slash commands on Hermes, basically you can just like drop the prompts in and it'll go ahead and do it for us. And the cool thing about this all, guys, is model agnostic. So, Fable 6 comes out or GPT salt plus 5.2, whatever the hell it's called, we can always use this basically to substitute it for a better model. And it's about that kind of a judicious exercise of the best model in a challenging task. So, you are literally going to be building better things now with Hermes because we're bringing Fable 5 in, but only at the right levels without it actually destroying our banks. But only at the right levels without it costing way more than it needs to. And there we go, it's gone ahead and done it. It gave me a quote. It said, "Hey Jack, this is how much money it's going to cost to rock and roll with Fable. Are you okay with that?" And I was like, "Yeah, that sounds really cool." So, come down, it's fully live now. It's pushed it live on Vercel with an agent which we're going to test right now. And we've got the Fable cost. So, I had an architecture pass and a continuation, which is cool. So, it ends up this cost is 26 cents using it. And then this is what we produced right here in one shot, which is basically just something for water. Water taken seriously, drops of water in a glass. Come down, it's got some beads. I just asked for a very, very simple 1 2 3 for lemon, strawberry, and grapefruit. And this is fully hosted live website you could share share straight away. Now, obviously, if we architected it and built more contrast, we could make it look spectacular. But the key detail here, guys, is the fact that it did it in one shot. And we've got an agent. If I come down here to reserve a tasting, I'm going to say something like, "Hey there, I would like to reserve a tasting. Is there one available next Tuesday?" Come down and just send this one off. And there we go, wonderful. Next Tuesday works beautifully. Taken reservation. Could you lock in your full name, your email address, etc., etc. And this is a fully autonomous AI agent now that's actually fully set up inside of ourselves. And so, the third really epic use case is using the incredible engine that we have in Fable 5 to actually think about how we can improve. Now, this is really important quite different because Fable 5 isn't the one going through all of our emails, all of our documents, all of our chat logs across both Hermes and Claude Code. Because with our memory system here in the Agentic OS, for example, you can see that we actually have information from Claude Code, from Codex, from everywhere all into one place, which is so much memory, so much so much data, so much files, but it can become quite expensive. But if we actually have a cheaper model that can go through the email, the calendar, the chats, and the notes, and then give Fable those insights, and then Fable can kind of decide and bring its strategies to the table without actually costing us any more anywhere near as much money as it would do if Fable was actually in control. And so, here for example, I might come down and give it the below. I say, "Hey there, dude. I would like to use the intelligence of Fable 5 to basically come with a couple suggestions on things that I could do to improve my productivity in my life. I'd like to use some of the lower cheaper models to go ahead and actually harness all the data, chat logs from different sources like Hermes and Claude, and then have Fable 5 actually overview that and give me its intelligence perspectives based on those insights. Also, first of all, I'd like to ask Fable 5, our stated objective is to get the best possible insights. What are the right questions to ask? Then I want you to ask those questions with the models, and then Fable 5 can consolidate those insights, meaning we get maximum level performance for a fraction of the cost with Fable." Cool. And obviously, we've already got the skills locked in, and we can just send that one straight off to Hermes, and it will literally coordinate the models in that sequence, meaning you get the performance and also the cost benefits. And so, the idea here is that every model has its lane, and our job is to get the best model in the right lane to get us so much further ahead. And what trips people up here is they use the wrong model for the wrong job. Now, that is just one insight of many that I covered in this video, which if you haven't seen, is going to help you get light years ahead in using Hermes and making way more productive.
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